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Smart Grid Research Data PANTERA Nano-Workshop - Shared screen with speaker view
Paula Carroll
26:05
Please add your questions or comments in the chat
Alireza Nouri@UCD
31:58
Please add your questions or comments here, so that I can pass them to Eleni ...
BlockEnergy
36:33
Ownership of the data … Grid operator ? Prosumer ? Energy company ?
Rodrigo Silva (University of Lisbon)
37:45
Will the power point and audio recording be made available later on? Thanks!
Paula Carroll
38:19
We hope to make the full recording available on the PANTERA website
James Fitzpatrick
46:23
I was just wondering Eleni, we have all of these big successful deep learning models that are blowing everything else out of the water. But then you hear stories about some large models requiring as much energy to train as a town or small city. At what point are our models too big?
BlockEnergy
49:25
Good question. Micro grid - in a decentralised structure, DLT - blockchain with multiple layers. Will the speakers care to address this very good question later from James ?
Eleni Mangina
49:44
@James Fitzpatrick: The efficiency of the algorithms is very important. See an interesting paper on how to estimate the EC in ML. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jpdc.2019.07.007
David
50:28
Hi Eleni, Is there any emerging standard for data gathering and inspections, schemas for data storage/cloud?
Eleni Mangina
56:01
There is current work on standards for Smart Grid and you can follow information updates at EU level at the following link: https://www.cencenelec.eu/standards/Sectorsold/SustainableEnergy/SmartGrids/Pages/default.aspx
Eleni Mangina
56:51
@David, I strongly believe that more emphasis should be given to the data standards
BlockEnergy
57:16
Hi Jim, the consultation paper from the Dept of the Environment, climate and Comms for a Microgenaration Support Scheme - MSS, closed last week. In it, a micro-generator must have first met minimum energy efficiency. Will this be what your measurements be use as the standard please ?
BlockEnergy
01:01:40
Thank you Jim
James Fitzpatrick
01:02:03
@Eleni Thanks, that looks like a really nice paper! :)
BlockEnergy
01:18:39
Q for @stephenDonoghue, Hi, In a decentralised data structure, DLT for example, there is no such thing as ownership of data ? But Agreement for data sharing. Right ?
Christina Papadimitriou
01:19:24
Venizelos is offline due to bad connection...he ll reconnect shortly
BlockEnergy
01:22:32
Cont. for Stephen, Weather data for example, is available from weather data API service provider and chargeable. We use such service from Germany in our development works. Will the Irish authorities going to license these type of services here ?
Eleni Mangina
01:25:50
data sharing goes hand in hand with data standards… There should be at high level decision on sharing data - it is consumers’ data. Shouldn’t these belong to the consumers? Shouldn’t I be in a position to decide whether my data will be used?
BlockEnergy
01:26:18
Thank you @stephen !
Stephen Donoghue
01:31:50
@blockenergy I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. There are public and private players in the provision of weather data. The open gov has access to free data under the cc by 4 licence. Commercial providers will have commercial agreements and sometimes non-commercial agreements for university researchers.
Stephen Donoghue
01:35:10
@eleni in principle I agree. If a person/consumer generates data they should be in a position to decide whether it should be shared, especially as it has personal data and privacy aspects associated with it. What makes the farmer's data movement in the US complex is that the farmers wish to get paid for the provision of technical data from machines they buy and use. Who "owns" that data?
BlockEnergy
01:39:58
The issue smart Grid in NL is facing, in recent years, is all about data ownership. Grid operator, energy supplier install the smart meter which produces the data for electricity use, or able to sell as prosumer. Consumer should have the claim of the ownership of the data is they are the energy producer and able to sell at “fair price” as the Irish government is consulting the public.
Giorgos Tsapparellas
01:41:11
Great work Venizelos. Indeed such platform would bring together and enhance the management and sharing of Smart Grid Networks around EU. Would this platform be open for private companies to contribute or only to research institutes?
BlockEnergy
01:41:41
If there is no such thing as ownership of data, arranged in a DLT, there there is more clarity for go forward for our 2030 green targets for renewable energy ?
James Fitzpatrick
01:42:30
It's hard to believe that car routing data can be really anonymised in a realistic manner... it's crazy that the data can be claimed like that
James Fitzpatrick
01:43:01
Commission for Energy Regulation (CER) :)
BlockEnergy
01:43:20
The SEDA in Malaysia (http://www.seda.gov.my/) have a government bask Sand Box arrangement to progress.
Stephen Donoghue
01:43:32
@james Fitzpatrick, privacy rights vary enormously from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
BlockEnergy
01:43:38
Will the Irish Government do the same ? @jim ?
BlockEnergy
01:43:58
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James Fitzpatrick
01:44:02
@Stephen surely that couldn't fly under any sort of scrutiny in the EU?
Stephen Donoghue
01:44:56
@James probably not, but by purchasing the car you might be giving rights to the company to use some sort of anonymized version of the data
Giorgos Tsapparellas
01:44:59
great thanks, that makes sense very thorough!
fabianopallonetto
01:45:05
is there a committee for approving the compliance to GDPR o the dataset?
Stephen Donoghue
01:46:50
yes Fabiano, I'm not an expert but there's a big movement towards edge computing in order to avoid GDPR issues
Eleni Mangina
01:48:31
There should be a rigorous methodology for research for the implications of data protection in Smart Grid
Eleni Mangina
01:48:42
I find DPIA a helpful document for research projects
BlockEnergy
01:48:49
Thank you for all the speakers !!! and the moderator !!!
Eleni Mangina
01:48:51
https://ec.europa.eu/energy/topics/markets-and-consumers/smart-grids-and-meters/smart-grids-task-force/data-protection-impact-assessment-smart-grid-and-smart-metering-environment_en
BlockEnergy
01:49:10
Look forward to see the copy of the PPT
Stephen Donoghue
01:49:30
THanks Eleni
Rodrigo Silva (University of Lisbon)
01:49:38
Very interesting talk!
Eleni Mangina
01:49:40
Thank you all
James Fitzpatrick
01:49:44
Thanks to all! :)
charitydelmus
01:49:46
Thank you for organising this
Shalaby, Mohamed (DERlab)
01:49:47
https://pantera-platform.eu/
Aleen van der Meer
01:49:49
Thank you!
fabianopallonetto
01:49:53
Thanks to everyone, was an interesting talk! Bye